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		<title>Comment on Assumptions are not your friends by vaguery</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaguery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several threads in one. It gets all overlappy. There are a surprising number of cultural assumptions at play in this particular call and response, and I admit that I find it interesting.

First, on expectations (once more): What makes you think there is no call to action here? As I asked Dan above, what right have we to wait until whatever ideas we're husbanding become fully formed, "polished", edited and made into &lt;i&gt;consumable goods of broad appeal&lt;/i&gt;? 

We have stickers for that.

Other people are writing books, and making a living selling those books and coworking facilities and the whole indypreneur/antipreneur/polypreneur lifestyle.

You invoke "polish". What's that, exactly? A demonstration of technical design expertise, or a kind of "inauthenticity" when there's no "message" behind it? I imagine Chesterton, GS Lee, Milton, and (maybe) even George Lucas would feel there was content and therefore an arguable "message" in their works, so I'm not sure you can make a case that it's &lt;i&gt;absent&lt;/i&gt; in extracts.

You ask for a "call to action". What right have we to be passive and silent, like an audience for our own content, waiting for a gleam of sloganicious koanic brilliance to take us all by storm and convince of the obvious truth of something-or-other? What right have we to ape everybody else, or to fall into trite aphorisms of received wisdom? Where's the value in that?

And while we're on value: you and Dan have pointed out this site's apparent &lt;i&gt;inutility&lt;/i&gt;.

See, it seems to me that whenever one encounters something that appears useless, or ill-made, or incomplete, one is presented with a series of choices.

What do you want? If it's not here, and yet everything seems "polished" in a way that makes you expect it, then &lt;i&gt;what is it about human nature that drives you to assume a mistake has been made on our side of the screen?&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe it's all just a poorly-executed joke. That ever come to mind? Many find solace in that explanation of the world.

A lot of people, most people even, faced with enigmatic things they don't understand, dismiss them and move on. Life being short, work being hard, and the economics of attention and the costs of discourse and insight being what they are. All that stuff is expensive and hard. Thinking, talking, discussing, finding, paying attention, engaging, participating. Hard, slow, and boring.

On that note, can I suggest a quick side-trip into &lt;A href="http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8386.html"&gt;WIlliam Byers's &lt;i&gt;How Mathematicians Think&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Or Gerald Stanley Lee's &lt;i&gt;The Lost Art of Reading&lt;/i&gt; if you prefer. Either might do, in a pinch.

Now, onward:

Who &lt;i&gt;the hell&lt;/i&gt; told you we thought society doesn't need bosses, or that any of us here imagine "all people" would be better off without them? That's lunacy, and I'll thwack the person who said it explicitly. Indeed, we say explicitly &lt;i&gt;we're not against bosses&lt;/i&gt;, and that one can be employed and still be Not an Employee.

So I'm not sure what website you're reading, but it ain't any of our stuff.

&lt;b&gt;Bosses have money, and as it happens they are also people.&lt;/b&gt; Almost all people these days need money. So it's pretty damned obvious that &lt;i&gt;of course&lt;/i&gt; there should be bosses, somewhere out there, giving money to people who need it. That right there, with minor variation, is a core design pattern for economic life in the world.

We're not an organization. We're not a union. We're not consultants, or organizers, or authors. If in the course of your life you should encounter a person who &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; answer all your questions, then (not to put too fine a point on it) either they or you are an idiot. Maybe both.

If you want simple and succinct solutions and rabble-rousing clear-seeming calls to action, go see the guys at &lt;A href="http://notanmba.com/blog/"&gt;Not An MBA&lt;/a&gt;. They are all over the straight answer and the useful link, and they've got their finger on the TOC for the book of Alexandrian Design Patterns for Sustainable Worklife. They're doing a fine job bringing together all the threads other people have been discovering in the last ten (110? 3010?) years or so. They're developing a nice clear message, which luckily is sounding less like "We can do it! Yeah! Stick it to the Man with Collaboration and a New Book!"

Those guys got all the focus, and bring to bear clarity enough for most, and if you watch them over time you can see they're learning things we've suspected for a while around here but just not bothered to share.

You want to use community and helpful list-making to save the world? Go see &lt;A href="http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/"&gt;Dave Pollard and his surprisingly vast communitarian conspiracy over at How to Save the World&lt;/a&gt;. He's smart, he's full of dialog and thoughtful commentary. It's good stuff. Go participate. It's a whole fully-formed community, just sitting there waiting to be joined.

We're not writing a book here. Shop around.

See: Either you see the dichotomy clearly, or you don't. There's no middle ground. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several threads in one. It gets all overlappy. There are a surprising number of cultural assumptions at play in this particular call and response, and I admit that I find it interesting.</p>
<p>First, on expectations (once more): What makes you think there is no call to action here? As I asked Dan above, what right have we to wait until whatever ideas we&#8217;re husbanding become fully formed, &#8220;polished&#8221;, edited and made into <i>consumable goods of broad appeal</i>? </p>
<p>We have stickers for that.</p>
<p>Other people are writing books, and making a living selling those books and coworking facilities and the whole indypreneur/antipreneur/polypreneur lifestyle.</p>
<p>You invoke &#8220;polish&#8221;. What&#8217;s that, exactly? A demonstration of technical design expertise, or a kind of &#8220;inauthenticity&#8221; when there&#8217;s no &#8220;message&#8221; behind it? I imagine Chesterton, GS Lee, Milton, and (maybe) even George Lucas would feel there was content and therefore an arguable &#8220;message&#8221; in their works, so I&#8217;m not sure you can make a case that it&#8217;s <i>absent</i> in extracts.</p>
<p>You ask for a &#8220;call to action&#8221;. What right have we to be passive and silent, like an audience for our own content, waiting for a gleam of sloganicious koanic brilliance to take us all by storm and convince of the obvious truth of something-or-other? What right have we to ape everybody else, or to fall into trite aphorisms of received wisdom? Where&#8217;s the value in that?</p>
<p>And while we&#8217;re on value: you and Dan have pointed out this site&#8217;s apparent <i>inutility</i>.</p>
<p>See, it seems to me that whenever one encounters something that appears useless, or ill-made, or incomplete, one is presented with a series of choices.</p>
<p>What do you want? If it&#8217;s not here, and yet everything seems &#8220;polished&#8221; in a way that makes you expect it, then <i>what is it about human nature that drives you to assume a mistake has been made on our side of the screen?</i></p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s all just a poorly-executed joke. That ever come to mind? Many find solace in that explanation of the world.</p>
<p>A lot of people, most people even, faced with enigmatic things they don&#8217;t understand, dismiss them and move on. Life being short, work being hard, and the economics of attention and the costs of discourse and insight being what they are. All that stuff is expensive and hard. Thinking, talking, discussing, finding, paying attention, engaging, participating. Hard, slow, and boring.</p>
<p>On that note, can I suggest a quick side-trip into <a href="http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8386.html">WIlliam Byers&#8217;s <i>How Mathematicians Think</i></a>. Or Gerald Stanley Lee&#8217;s <i>The Lost Art of Reading</i> if you prefer. Either might do, in a pinch.</p>
<p>Now, onward:</p>
<p>Who <i>the hell</i> told you we thought society doesn&#8217;t need bosses, or that any of us here imagine &#8220;all people&#8221; would be better off without them? That&#8217;s lunacy, and I&#8217;ll thwack the person who said it explicitly. Indeed, we say explicitly <i>we&#8217;re not against bosses</i>, and that one can be employed and still be Not an Employee.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure what website you&#8217;re reading, but it ain&#8217;t any of our stuff.</p>
<p><b>Bosses have money, and as it happens they are also people.</b> Almost all people these days need money. So it&#8217;s pretty damned obvious that <i>of course</i> there should be bosses, somewhere out there, giving money to people who need it. That right there, with minor variation, is a core design pattern for economic life in the world.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not an organization. We&#8217;re not a union. We&#8217;re not consultants, or organizers, or authors. If in the course of your life you should encounter a person who <i>does</i> answer all your questions, then (not to put too fine a point on it) either they or you are an idiot. Maybe both.</p>
<p>If you want simple and succinct solutions and rabble-rousing clear-seeming calls to action, go see the guys at <a href="http://notanmba.com/blog/">Not An MBA</a>. They are all over the straight answer and the useful link, and they&#8217;ve got their finger on the TOC for the book of Alexandrian Design Patterns for Sustainable Worklife. They&#8217;re doing a fine job bringing together all the threads other people have been discovering in the last ten (110? 3010?) years or so. They&#8217;re developing a nice clear message, which luckily is sounding less like &#8220;We can do it! Yeah! Stick it to the Man with Collaboration and a New Book!&#8221;</p>
<p>Those guys got all the focus, and bring to bear clarity enough for most, and if you watch them over time you can see they&#8217;re learning things we&#8217;ve suspected for a while around here but just not bothered to share.</p>
<p>You want to use community and helpful list-making to save the world? Go see <a href="http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/">Dave Pollard and his surprisingly vast communitarian conspiracy over at How to Save the World</a>. He&#8217;s smart, he&#8217;s full of dialog and thoughtful commentary. It&#8217;s good stuff. Go participate. It&#8217;s a whole fully-formed community, just sitting there waiting to be joined.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not writing a book here. Shop around.</p>
<p>See: Either you see the dichotomy clearly, or you don&#8217;t. There&#8217;s no middle ground. Right?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Assumptions are not your friends by Matt Arnold</title>
		<link>http://notanemployee.net/blog/2008/03/assumptions-are-not-your-friends/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a website is as highly-polished as this one, what I expect is a call to action. Not necessarily to enact a solution or arrive at a firm conclusion, but to participate in that process. From the web, I have come to expect participation in finding solutions and reaching goals. For instance, collect people's stories of obstacles to being Not An Employee, and their stories of overcoming those obstacles, or just re-framing so the obstacles are just a misperception.

There are two basic reasons I feel a need for bosses.

One reason is to solve problems of how to make an income, which thus far I have consistently failed to solve without bosses. But if I strike on a solution to that, so long as it isn't just as boring as cubicle work, I'll leave the cubicle world forever. One great thing about this blog would be to collect resources toward how to get clients or an audience, and all the other bits of "how to be your own boss" that school doesn't teach you when teaching you how to practice a skill.

The second obstacle is that, so far as I know, you either have bosses, clients, or an audience. I don't know about audiences, but in my experience, clients are consistently worse than bosses, without any of the responsibility that bosses take.

I see you changed your "About" page since I last visited. It's much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a website is as highly-polished as this one, what I expect is a call to action. Not necessarily to enact a solution or arrive at a firm conclusion, but to participate in that process. From the web, I have come to expect participation in finding solutions and reaching goals. For instance, collect people&#8217;s stories of obstacles to being Not An Employee, and their stories of overcoming those obstacles, or just re-framing so the obstacles are just a misperception.</p>
<p>There are two basic reasons I feel a need for bosses.</p>
<p>One reason is to solve problems of how to make an income, which thus far I have consistently failed to solve without bosses. But if I strike on a solution to that, so long as it isn&#8217;t just as boring as cubicle work, I&#8217;ll leave the cubicle world forever. One great thing about this blog would be to collect resources toward how to get clients or an audience, and all the other bits of &#8220;how to be your own boss&#8221; that school doesn&#8217;t teach you when teaching you how to practice a skill.</p>
<p>The second obstacle is that, so far as I know, you either have bosses, clients, or an audience. I don&#8217;t know about audiences, but in my experience, clients are consistently worse than bosses, without any of the responsibility that bosses take.</p>
<p>I see you changed your &#8220;About&#8221; page since I last visited. It&#8217;s much better.</p>
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		<link>http://notanemployee.net/blog/2008/05/ann-arbor-town-hall-meeting-on-coworking/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>bkerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &lt;a href="http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2008/05/coworking-town.html"&gt;Ed's impressionistic notes from the meeting&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read <a href="http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2008/05/coworking-town.html">Ed&#8217;s impressionistic notes from the meeting</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ann Arbor Town Hall meeting on Coworking by Edward Vielmetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on upcoming:

http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/583934</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on upcoming:</p>
<p><a href="http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/583934" >http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/583934</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ann Arbor Town Hall meeting on Coworking by Notional Slurry &#187; Coworking Town Hall meeting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notional Slurry &#187; Coworking Town Hall meeting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crossposted at Not An Employee blog [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on NotAnEmployee Fails to sign up for Commuter Challenge by Edward Vielmetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fixed now.  Time to compete (and to recruit other not-an-employees to commute with us.)</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Ambient Office by Edward Vielmetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Vielmetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've taking to piping in surprisingly realistic sounds of hybrid electric buses and gravel trucks into my conference calls, with an occasional splash of cappucino machine.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Accounting with eyes wide open by Karen Moorhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Moorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lead by revenue not expenses.  It can be difficult in my field, but its a great rule to live by.  Hope you like it too.</description>
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		<dc:creator>spatially relevant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Relevant Links for April 20th through April 21st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Accounting with eyes wide open [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Ambient Office by devonpersing</title>
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		<dc:creator>devonpersing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having cut my early work teeth at an amusement park, perhaps I should try some carousel greatest hits while I work?</description>
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